Grand Plans spoiled and power reclaimed. And it will get heated. Oh theres more. Has anyone had experience with this and how to R? Its like this OW has done a number on him. So, dont censor yourself, my dear . I might do it with that and some repayments as TFW suggested. Pay phones, fax line at the office and in person. And I called my family the next day and told them we were divorcing. I said she lacks integrity so do you you will make each other perfectly miserable! What a nightmare. Within the seed of wisdom did I sow "Often she is rather ordinary, not as accomplished as the wife and looks up to him and laughs at his jokes and makes the man feel like he's king of the world.". Complete emotional mess. Revisionist. Those early days of loss are something else and its never to be underestimated just getting through them but having company is key. Throughout all of this there was not any genuine remorse or much discussion, a few mumbled apologies about the mess he created. Thats the Last Thing I Want. Either way, it was a long, hard road. Twenty-nine years old, but death seemed better. Im glad to hear you have planned a get-away. Now he wants a D. So I fall apart and agree yet again. He may just take it. Learning to Trust After Romantic Abandonment, What Alice Herz-Sommer Taught Me About Life, Powering Up and Powering Out After Your Husband Leaves, 7 Ways Empaths Can Heal From Trauma and PTSD, How Infidelity Causes Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Forget Me Not: The Persistent Myth of Repressed Memories, Childhood Trauma and Trauma Symptom Expression as an Adult, What "Barbie" Gets Right About Male Psychology, Live Fully in the Present, Not in Your Head, Living With Your Gifted Childs Intensity, 4 Ways Gaslighters Attempt to Ruin Your Self-Esteem, Recovering From Serious Mental Illness: 6 Key Themes, How Family Estrangement May Benefit Trauma Survivors. My h talked her out of it. Everyone here seems to have made it out together in their M, even if they are at differing stages on the path. Theres a Robert Frost poem called The Road Not Taken that I have always loved. I could not eat anything else. We all want to help in any way we can. He did this not you. You can get really whipped by this societal notion that you are failing to move past something on everyone elses time frame. Love this: The true Warriors. But It comes down to this: What you thought you knew v What is / was really happening. When lines of respect are being crossed it is up to us to say enough. Most women find open relationships distasteful. Simple and makes perfect sense. Right ?!? a person whose actions RARELY match their words. Join our community and start feeling better right away. His mother grew up to be a terrible mother who spoiled her daughters and who spit on the shoes of her sons and told them they were worthless. He will only perceive it as control and pressure from you. = a perfect storm. counseling saved my sanity and kept things in check. Well I dint exactly get the gold medal for MILs according to my DILs. but his version at the time of the A was different. ?and you will never trust me which is crap as I told him I have no intention of policing him and his whereabouts and trust is given but it has to be honoured. Do husbands ever come back after midlife crisis? That is why I went for in-patient treatment as I was in the ultimate dark place and my anxiety was impacting me to the point I was literally unable to function. But i WAS right. I waited around the corner in my car waiting for him to pull up. You can also subscribe without commenting. But that wasnt my concern. I tell myself I am a survivor. The journal doesnt get looked at or written in very often anymore, but its a valuable reminder and documents the process. Get a massage or a pedi/mani, go to a show but get out of the house. I made a wish and not what you might think either. He seemed very hard, very shut down. My son and I will become stronger from this. Do not expect ANY help from them. I found some incriminating emails and hit print. Anyhow: he proof is in the pudding*: I am calm and feeling actually *almost normal* for the first time today. From my take in her posts she trying to be on some path of personal, self enlightenment etc so good for her. I had other plans for those. So my lawyer told him thats fine, we plan on subpoenaing the OW and also sue HER for Alienation of Affection and Resources which is still a law in my state which would me a huge forensic accounting of all businesses!! Its when we fight it and deny it that it keeps rearing its ugly head. He sent me an aggrieved / aggressive message about it. Take care of you. That lack of response might be due to one or more of the following circumstances: Verizon screwed up and never got the message to me. As it is I suspect between fathers and daughters. People do not get over loss. Thanks ShiftingImps, I agree with you and I can certainly see the difficulties for MILs. Once the husband has told his wife he is out of the marriage, his exit happens fast. Maybe he is just stubborn and doesnt want to admit he was wrong. She tracked down my great-grandmother and my great-grandmother took in her mom and cared for her until her mothers death. I will only put that card on the table as a last resort. He tried to hug and kiss me but I was shaking with panic attack / anger. Of course I looked all calm in the outside. That enraged him. You did nothing wrong, and you shouldnt need to convince him of your worth. I have shared with close friends, and one or two of them have been really supportive and some others just overwhelmed with their own lives and no personal fault but its a few outliers that maybe sit on the cusp of being able to move into closer friendship but maybe this tests them so they cant deepen. Many spouses figure out that the grass is not as green as they thought once they actually experience life on their own. I have such high anxiety that the emotional abuse is nearly pushing me over the edge. Ive been the glue in family relationships. Hes made this mess and I have a stinkin feeling he knows it. Ive done the right thing by you the whole way and I you have destroyed my whole life. H said he would come back. No accountability. If you do think R is in the table then reach out again to meet. but at least you have some perspective on his motives and the fact that you can sense OW is still involved. The business makes that hard. Anyone who had an impact during his/her formative years. H: Silence. I went to an attorney right away. But I actually think H prefers it when he doesnt hear from me as it underscores the new narrative that I dont exist to him now. They also deserved a lesson as they made us feel so bad about our bogan roots let alone how it made us feel to even know Satoris family. His behavior is getting better all the time and some of his actions make it clear he loves me, but he still feels nothing and the idea of feeling to him is repulsive. Clearly she has issues in understanding respect and M. Im sorry but not to give you a PW to a bank account is total manipulative behavior and abuse. I understand how hard this is. Not even kidding!! And then break. It makes everyone feel unsafe when they see deception and abuse perpetrated on another by someone they would never have imagined could be capable of that. I also cried my eyeballs out every.damn.day. I let him move in with me and h. I had so much fun with him. It was the hardest time in my life and it was a daily struggle to not lose it. He knew I meant business at DDay2. I 100% agree with your view that he needs meds. This only fueled me more. And maybe the joint business makes things more complicated. Infidelity and the consequences of it are, to me, the death of that marriage. TheFirstWife there was a moment there where I actually felt sorry for him. Was her mother committing suicide? No warning, no conversations , nope he was going to leave me to be with her. Excitement? He needs to be tall, have his own place, etc. Through tears, H said he needed ten minutes. today I am panicking because tonight we are meeting two other couples for dinner. It is possible I guess but how to know what is really going on with him? This can lead to a sense of regret and longing for what might be an idealized past. I couldnt stand being out and with people and I would experience severe panic attacks. He could not change any beneficiaries to protect me & kids. Couples date night went ok. Our actions DO NOT define us. Its not over yet unfortunately. Was still in shock. "I sometimes wish that he would come back and I find it hard to let go of the past. The narrative has now become all justification for the A. If we take this idea further, I wonder how many runaway spouses always had qualities that could be considered covertly narcissistic and therefore less noticeable. Do their husbands know? I just cannot fathom this insidious betrayl and lack of empathy. Its SAPPING YOUR STRENGTH. Its my last chance and my last hope. In bags or boxes. I left but I didnt go home. Is it possible the MIL told him something like you can R it is still an option and that is why your H sent the nice texr? Its mystifying to me how they are all the same! Of course she is! You are incredibly strong to pull through all of that. We live in Charleston, SC. If you were to post, I would absolutely treat you respectfully as I do anyone who replies and to whom I reply. Tell him that youve decided to give him a choice that eventually, hell have to choose either you or the other woman. This is all since DDay. Certainly wasnt my finest moments but it happened and Im not going to deny it. We are all to anxious to just get over it. Then I texted him, to ask him why he was calling me. This is how my friend got rid of his ex-wife. Its hard as hell but I promise you will be ok. Cry and vent and get through your grief. He is the Jason Bourne on my team, Theyll never see him coming. Except like the rest of us we have bad choosers. Figure out.what YOU want. Never. I so wish that I knew the answer to that one. First five times I was not. Some husbands left "hit-and-run" text messages or Post-it notes stuck to the television, while others dropped the bomb in the most mundane moments -- eating cereal or putting on socks. But My Husband Wants One, My Separated Husband Says I Dont Understand Him, I Suspect My Disgruntled Husband Wants Me to Leave. Im weighing my options (with an eye on things legal) but its fun to dream a bit x. Satorilol not to worry. He called me 4 times (I was on another call that came in about work) until I finally picked up. But we are still talking around the issues so it doesnt feel over if you know what I mean. One of the symptoms that not many people realize that is associated with mosquito borne illnesses, is depression and anxiety. I was fortunate to have a psychiatrist and a therapist. Seems to me an MLC would happen to a woman before a man. Im so sorry to hear you were in the hospital, I hope things are going better for you health wise. When ABCNews.com did a little research of its own, two middle-aged women revealed the excruciating pain they endured after being abandoned. She makes certain her marriage remains a priority, insisting on quality time together . Same with friends. No. It was our 25th anniversary (during round 2 of A which I had no idea was going on). I dont quite frankly care if this thimble mind is a threat to themselves. I dont know whether he is typical or just de-volving into the worst kind of person. Thank you TheFirstWife and TryingHard for the lovely replies. She needed space. If she wanted to be in it, then it was her choice to come back to me. In his warped and twisted mind the A he chose to have is your fault. But, again, in an effort to keep the peace, I would just let it go. People change. Puzzled, when I think of how everything re the M is now going to be totally different,regardless of the outcome, it makes me feel so upset. LOL I call bullshit on MLCs. And maybe with a different outlook and attitude. Wow!!! Along with the hardened heart and nasty attitude. I love you but Im not in love with you which, translated technically means, I love you but I am fucking someone else and Id like to continue doing so, so you need to take the hint that you are officially surplus to requirements and let me do what I want without imposing consequences because I said I love you.. I know my situation was not as dire as yours w/ business tied in, but our turn around was last possible second. Its just something I never ever envisaged could even happen. It upsets me seeing people like that. My Separated Husband Wants to Avoid Me So Hes Become More Distant With the Kids, My Separated Husband Seems Careful Not to Give Me Any Hope of Reconciliation. And so it goesHes done with our M. I can feel it. So damn hard to do. Both M & F. Old or young. For whatever reason. I guess it was to be expected. TH is right on blood is thicker than water. At least my kids and I could not be walking on eggshells. It worked. Geez now thats a relationship to hang onto!!! Thanks Puzzled. He said he hadnt been happy in years. Times are better now. He came back. He couldnt handle the pain he caused me.again pretty standard. But its the emotional abuse that is worse to me than the infidelity. Kept the vibe light. It sounds like he comes close then runs again. Well, it all started with my great, great grandmother on my fathers side. Saw him again today for 2 hours (much calmer lol!!) And we need to hear other peoples stories.its all part of the healing. And even at this early stage for me, I can truly see that losing partners even to another life they want and become a person who is still going to be in this life (just not in my life), is a life sentence of sorts. Trying Hard: Id consider my wifes affair and her selfish behavior as somewhat of a MLC. That everyone would welcome her with open arms. It may have bothered him for a while, but he never knew how to tell you. Spousal Abandonment Syndrome is the opposite of the traditional divorce which typically comes after years of trying to work out difficulties in a marriage. I think we all can relate to the destruction when the bomb drops. For H: alcohol addiction, love addiction (avoidance of intimacy and fear of abandonment), social anxiety and possible personality disorder in my H, exacerbated by midlife crisis. Yep I went in. He doesnt like the fact he cannot have his own way. infidelity, violence, and substance abuse, 10 things every woman should know about her husband, 10 signs youre actually a great husband or wife, even if it doesnt feel like it, 10 habits of couples who nurture trust and honesty in their relationship, Forgive the man and set boundaries for the action, Take the free quiz here to be matched with the perfect coach for you, Hidden Secrets of Buddhism and How it Saved My Life, 11 daily habits of women whose husbands are deeply in love with them, 10 things to never say to your wife if you want to stay married, 10 reasons nerdy men make the best husbands. Choose your path and trust your decisions. My SIL with whom he lived was my strongest ally. I remember your story from months ago. From http://spartanlifecoach.com/covert-narcissistic-abuse-unmasked/. St that point I said OK there was nothing I could do. None of my friends do. Up until now hes been getting a lot of misinformation from non professional resources i.e. I did it twice and traveling alone is great for soul searching and putting into perspective you will be just fine without him! Im certain he was crying to her that you intended to wreck him financially. You can also start denying him some privileges he enjoyed in the open relationship stage. Or at least there are overlapping qualities. Satori needs to be taught a lesson and we endorse GoldenCHild giving her the lesson she needs no matter how painful or unwarranted she will say it is. Keep posting and keep us updated on your progress. TFW, your summary is, as always, on point. When I would express Youre hurting me, the response would be, Whatever hurt you think you may be experiencing is your own imagination.. But is that sustainable?? Lucky you that at least you didnt have that as well. This is an unselfish motive on your part. Im not doing so well even though I wish I could say I was Rollercoaster ride is the perfect example of life during this time. It can, but that will depend largely on the decisions you make moving forward. 6. No you dont have to have the victim mentality and turn bitter. He was leaving. WTF right?? But in any case, its now not even an option. 24 May 11 Topic started by sillywoman I wonder when one partner ups and leaves for another man/woman can they really ever be happy seeing the devastation they have left behind to wife/husband children both emotionally and financially. Yesterday the brief 6 day NC zone ended as we had work stuff to attend to. Im just holding on to the beautiful experiences I HAD in the M even though H wants to rewrite the marital history as if that was all my illusion and really it was flat out misery. So I call bullshit on your protestations. I am dirty it did not have a better result for you. I guess I should thank my H for the lessons. Im ready for whatever now. This will be natural. I think when she sent you that short messsge she just didnt know what to say. And at the same time, you must set boundaries for him. All behavior is due to brain processes. It hurts I know but it could be a huge blessing in disguise. How Do You Do It. Heres a link to more info. I wondered as SI and TH said whether a death of a person is more straight forward in a way. We have all been dealt the brutal blow of infidelity obviously some stories are worse than others. Lol ask me how I know ???? Laundry? And when I got home he came over with my eldest son with whom I was very pissed at for his being all Switzerland. Spousal Abandonment Syndrome is when one of the spouses leaves the marriage without any warning, andusuallywithout having shown any signs of unhappiness with the relationship. And thats a good thing. Really loathe to see him as a covert narcissist but he ticks a lot of the boxes if not always in the most extreme way. Satori thinks shes unique in this craziness and we know shes not. He may not see it right now, but that is not a reflection on you. I yelled where is she. Great post Puzzled. And even though I was furious I emotionally needed him to get through the holidays and death in the family (in same 3 week span). Wondering if I should inform a family member or is that a stunt he is pulling to guilt me? If Ive helped ONE person here then my time spent here has been worthwhile. Her family probably now hates my family Blah blah blah. "If I can't trust 'George,' who I trusted with my heart and mind, who can I trust? Everything you say he has said to me!! He has responsibilities. But finally faced with the music ie the real me and the real feelings I have about him, for the first time he suggested marriage counselling. I notice more subtle clues in our friends that make me say hmm?, sounds like theres some trouble there. needs to explain to me why they dont matter. Dont think shell do it as she explained to me that she is worthy and I suppose, I am not. He really tries his best but its a slow process getting through this. Heres the thing I have learned, FWIW. Anyhow, I hope it was great. Such high EQ. They are believing all of his garbage that he is spewing out. And his family is buying into his self created drama instead if standing up to him and telling him what reality is. Our lives have been turned upside down by a spouse who became more concerned with me than we. However, if I called her, or messaged her, and SHE failed to respond, it was quite a different standard. Why do men leave the women they claim to love? I do it for no one but myself. To answer your questions we have been married for 15 years. Basically it comes down to this: if you want to save your marriage, then do everything in your power to fight for it! ), healing (learning) from ancestors mistakes. Youve thrown him a rope but its his responsibility to climb out. Your own power is in your own choices and responses. Maybe BSA has some inner communication with the non-commenters. Lots of people call their spouses behavior an MLC as though well that is much different than all the other garden variety cheaters. I believe it. Thats what punches me in the stomach still. How on earth would you know someone would do this? No one can make this choice for him. You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. But we all understand the pain and agony of it all. Ive been very sad and crying ever since I got home. Go out with a friend for a drink or dinner. Seems like your W stayed in your home? BSA, Thanks for your response. Likely on both sides..love is patient, kindetc. Write down your thoughts and plans and then let it go for a while. It was work, I was being dramatic, he didnt follow the patterns of someone having an affair. It was discouraging. At first I was begging and pleading at least for a conversation as to what the hell just happened here. Satori Now, is it possible that he DOESNT regret cheating on you? I think you will find a lot of support here and a lot of good information. Whether the OW is still in the picture or not. Thanks for checking in. Doesnt seem like it to you but you got this! And I have. I cant blindly trust you no one would! Trying to figure out how an affair happened, how your spouse suddenly went from being a partner to being a complete stranger is NOT like diagnosing heart disease. Seriously, you cant make this shit up!! One minute we are sailing along and the next thing I know I am treading water trying to keep my family together. You have been managing this well. If this is the case, you can at least gradually attempt to move toward rehabilitation. Ever. Now the story is that H didnt want to come home some nights (this from FIL to my Dad ????). Ive never forgiven him for that. Say it aint so??!! Refused to go to counselingThe reason, wait for itI have counseled couples with infidelity isssues and I know how this stuff goes What!!!!! It could be MLC affair / Exit Affair or just Runaway Husband but It seems to have elements of all three. Managed things quite nicely and no big issues. At one point I said Go on, just say it, I want to hear the lie, since it no longer matters as we will not be together. H laughed kind of nervously and as he spoke I watched his eyes. Dont give in to her petty bullying. He was going to MC and lying his ass off. If Your Husband Left You For Another Woman, Read This (Not to mention my hair which is long and thick has started to fall out in one spot). And that, maybe, people do just grow apart. In relation to any question (I mean any whatsoever) my H says Ill think about it. How Do I Handle This? I agree with you that he is 100% in the affair fog and fantasy aspect of it all. Is this even possible? Glad to see he MAY be coming around but that is no guarantee of success unless he is willing to work hard. I may never get that closure from her. And sadly, they obviously do not truly have their own sons interests at heart either. Focus on you. Breathe. And yes they make it all about them. Puzzled. We talked about everything today. This starts to make the shit realllly real for them. No idea why LOL!! Doesnt matter the reason. You can be a better person and put the issues on the table. Im hopeful that things will get better for you. My Separated Husband Wants to Avoid Me So Hes Become More Distant With the Kids, My Separated Husband Seems Careful Not to Give Me Any Hope of Reconciliation. I swear to God my dog vastly improves my life and my mood. Assets and liabilities. No I dont advocate doing the pick ME dance. And he did. You can rebound from it but you will never have 100% security ever again. And I dont believe your MILs mission was to tell you there would be no R. Im sure her son explained he was scared to or wasnt sure he wanted to. I was getting ready for work that next morning. Im turning to Him now. Here are some of the most important tips to keep in mind: Sure, this whole mess is all his fault. Hindsight, as they say, is 20/20. There is no respect if the affair is still in going. About why he is punishing you and not speaking. He will lose. But since shes DEAD its been easier ???? ", But that night after a 21-year marriage - when Stark told him she bought fish for dinner, he replied, "It's over. Single Dadwhat great, wise and compassionate advice and words. I owe a lot of who I am to him and I say it whenever I get a chance. I hear you about the anxiety. The biggest leverage I had is I would destroy a business that took decades to build. Finally, he couldnt take it anymore and left. The things they do! Not returning. When I asked him if the EA was worth it .at least Im still aliveyup, having an EA saved his life. I know thru experience the R and M commitment has to be the CSs idea or commitment to want it. Haha who am I fooling? But the reality is the marriage and relationship that we, as the betrayed spouse, believed in, is now gone and something new is taking shape. For whatever reason, I needed to hear that song at that very moment. I have had a LOT to say to him to correct that crap. Your marriage, as you knew it, is over. Or they rationalise it by saying oh there must have been problems in the marriage (*eye roll*) but to them its like any old breakup so I should still just get on with my life etc. Im looking forward to him finding out how hard it really is when you dont have a loving W in the corner doing everything for you to run your life and your business etc. Satori I will be without wifi for a while so dont think Im ignoring you. I made her look bad because I worked out, taught Sunday School, looked younger. Thanks for the positive thoughts! LOL. Let us know when you get back. The pretending to move thing was a way of showing me he was detaching too, distancing. It was clearly a major factor. I have an attorney and my therapist on speed dial shoukd I have even a suspicion or hint if anything I dont like. Absolutely, but I am at peace. During his A I had to deal with a death in my family (very unexpected), my job issues (which were escalating), trying to get my hands on $ b/c I was afraid he would leave me financially struggling, my teen Child and their abusive BF/GF relationship, PTSD and being saddled with the house and mortgage without the $ to keep me afloat until the house would sell. I too wanted my ex to recognize her faults in this. Satori Yet, sooo much havoc. Thanks for your good wishes. I have a graduate degree in Psychology and Ive spent the last 15 years reading and studying all I can about human psychology and practical ways to hack our mindsets. Or, Satori looks like she is ok without me etc so the interest is only ego-based. Sigh. I am only 4 weeks out since my DDay having been abandoned with no notice by my Runaway Husband of nearly 15 years of living together. and thats when I blew ENOUGH to him as well. But it was a long hard 6 months that caused me to lose hope along the way. But we went for a year and a half after that. He begged for a 2nd chance so I said I would give it to him only if he signed a post nup. Hope your good memories of your friend bring some relief to the sting of your loss. All face saving for his deception so as everyone has pointed out, it has to be me and the M now so the justification all works. Thats the saddest part of this for me. When my h got the notice from my lawyer how Id set the process in motion he had moved to his sisters place six doors down from me if you remember reading in my last post. In Wife Abandonment Syndrome, there are often no signs that the husband is unhappy or thinking of leaving, as was my case. Oh and I wanted to ask if it was Ok to wish could OW have some sort of situation occur where her arms are pinned down due to IV drip so no phone use possible after being hit by local bus or handy equivalent.
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